Just when you think the extremists in the NRA, the National Rifle Association, have hit an new low with their past support for armor piercing bullets and automatic assault weapons they begin a even more preposterous stance by supporting guns for terrorists. You heard right folks. In a letter to the Attorney General NRA executive director Chris Cox said the bill, offered last week by Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., “would allow arbitrary denial of Second Amendment rights based on mere ‘suspicions’ of a terrorist threat.” Hell, they can listen in on all of our private conversations but we can’t take this simple step to protect ourselves? What the @#$%? We can’t err on the side of caution because some wacko may have to wait a few extra weeks for his assault rifle or explosives?
The NRA has decided that our terrorists threat lists are not sufficient grounds for stopping somebody from buying weapons or explosives. Over the past over 90% of people on the terrorist list have been able to purchase these goodies, not because the list didn’t identify them as possible terrorists, but because there is no federal law preventing them from doing so. Seems the NRA is concerned the terrorist’s rights maybe crushed by the heavy hand of government and that the list maybe faulty. Hello, the NRA is right about the legitimacy of the terrorist list, it’s a joke, but then fix the damn list before more people die will ya ? Haven’t we spent enough money on Homeland Security to get this right? Does anybody ever get fired for doing a crap job in the Federal government other than Brownie?
Moreover, that model of moral courage aka the nutless wonders in both the Democratic and Republican parties blocked a vote on a similar bill during the last session. Obama won’t go near this issue either. Is it me or am I missing something here? We can argue endlessly about torturing terrorists but there’s no argument about selling guns or explosives to them? And no I don’t want ban all guns just the ones going to the terrorists. Sounds reasonabl but I guess common sense is strangely out of vogue nowadays.
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I never knew that fighting for *due process*, and decrying sentencing based on *suspicion* was extremist.
Thank you for enlightening me.
Nothing like being on double secret probation for no reason huh?
Like I said fix the damn list and then enforce it! Hell, we destroyed an entire country based *suspicon* so asking somebody to wait a few days for their explosives is just plain old common sense, again evidently lacking from Chubby.
I was in NY for September 11th and I know what it is like to be a civilian retreating in the face of a terrorist attack. I never thought in a million years I would experience something like that in this country as I worried about family and friends. No, I was not trembling or quaking but I stayed behind and spent the day in Manhattan to help some strangers and some every pregnant women get off that damn rock. I spent the following day giving blood for the survivors that were never found.
Where were you that day, watching the attacks on TV as you cleaned your guns? I just wished that the idiot flight instructor in Florida had a lick of common sense when that terrorists garbage insisted on not learning how to land a jet. Again, another example where common sense was in short supply.
And don’t give me that slippery slope crap because I’m sure none of you have complained about the government listening on any phone call without a warrant nor do you have a problem with torture. But God forbid somebody inconveniences you in the process of getting your next gun! (By the way my stance on torture , don’t institutionalize torture but do what you have to as the situation warrants. You don’t get a blank check, it’s called sacrificing for your country just like the kids did in Iraq. You’ll know if you did the right thing and we need patriots to make the judgment call on torture, not a batch of hired subcontractors.)
So, your saying since we attacked a country based on *suspicion*, that justifies putting people on this so called terrorist watched based solely on *suspicion*?
Typical Rethuglican…..
And if you’re really about fixing this list, then don’t just blurb about it, and get caught up in your NRA Derangement Syndrome trip.
And by the way, I was in NY too on 9/11, searching for loved ones.
What part of fix the list you don’t get? Assuming the list gets fixed, and that is a big assumption, then can we block the terrorists or, no, with your logic, they should be able to buy whatever they want as long as they pay for it? Why? Because some innocent will have to wait a bit longer to be cleared to buy his explosives? Hell, with that rational we could never execute anyone because of the off chance, particularly if they are a poor minority, they are innocent. Jeez, that, never happens does it?
To quote you, quoting Chris Cox, *would allow arbitrary denial of Second Amendment rights based on mere ‘suspicions’ of a terrorist threat*.
Since you’re arguing about fixing this super secret triple probation list, so that people aren’t put on this list based on *suspicion*, you should have no problem supporting the NRA, since per your quote, they too, are against accusations based on *suspicion*.
But I guess you’re right, since we went to War based on *suspicion*, then we can deny people’s rights, based on *suspicion*.
Thanks for the enlightenment.
So you want your guns but you don’t want any central intelligence tracking terrorists in this country and hence you support the NRA guns and explosives for terrorists program? Again, answer the question: how do you propose to stop terrorists, foreign or domestic, from buying all the guns and explosives they may want unless we monitor them and actively prevent them from doing so? Because if you got a secret recipe please share with your fellow Americans.
And I can assure even if the list was 100% accurate the NRA would still have a problem with any gun law. Why the hell do you need armor piercing bullets other than to kill cops? Yet the NRA won’t back an inch on that issue. Slippery slope they say. What about blocking somebody from buying explosives; the right to explode something is a far cry from the people’s right to form a militia, correct? If you get blocked no biggie you just can’t blow up something but if you block a terrorist you just may save some innocent Americans.
Where were you in NYC on 9/11 by the way?